(Will McMurrey). Digger Digere. 25 0.142 158834 Grayrock 96. 5 .092 .242 In fact, as the requirements of a stream rod are very simple, this is what we do. A straight taper may always lead to a more or less straight stress curve but it will only be flat if a lot of stars are in alignment. It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. Can you direct me to where I can find more information on this? 0.369 Except that they are US rated and thus #5's! Garrison would have like straight line stress/strain results for the same reason Richard Walker did. 25 .232 .115 Pickard is the Dickerson rod maker these days. )really love this taper. If it's starting at the cork, somebody got their dimensions messed up. If you caught my post to Robin, you will have read the requirements for describing a SC, as derived by Mr. Everett Garrison in his book. This is because the laws of physics don't tend to change much. The part of the ferrule that fits over the bamboo on the tip section (male ferrule) had the same exact inside diameter of .221" INITIALLY! $95.00 Maybe it is the version of the taper they are making, there are several out there. Winston Rods. . (Jerry Foster). 0.334 Dickerson 8615 - 8.5ft 2pc 7wt Posted by Gary Lohkamp,15 Jan 1997. BTW, Paul, different strokes for different folks. A 2pc rod is much less vulnerable to breakage when fitted that way than a 3pc tip ferrule. To my way of looking at this taper, its definitely an 8 wt. Especially if you know how the rods actually cast. I would argue that the variances are due to machine error, rather than deliberate (consider that you are tapering the strips by running them thru a glorified router, excuse me milling machine, using a worn wooden pattern board running over metal rollers, to determine the taper. The top snake guide on the butt has a bit of a bend to it. I would go with Thramer. What physical characteristics make a taper roll cast well. 35 .186 .326 (Larry Puckett), If you look at page 104 of the Dickerson book you will see his die set. Could this be the difference between an 861711D and an 861711? Chris' rod is also an 861711D. 0.168 An 861711 would be an 8 1/2' three piece, with the butt-to-mid ferrule being a size 17, and the mid-to-tip ferrule being a size 11. I want to build a rod that does what a Dickerson 7613 does when casting and fished. The 7613 is a wonderfully versatile taper, the rod is light in the hand, and is at home casting sizes #6 Muddlers to #16 Dry flies. I think of it as an 8013G. The ID of the female ferrule where it accepts the male slide is .187", or 12/64. 0.160 by trouttrapper 06/12/16 09:32, Post The following taper was taken from a varnished 8013. You are correct, this is just a way of evaluating the effects of adding or subtracting material from different areas along a rods length. .288@30 I think you are being a tad myopic, if you can't see that .016, .014, and .015 AVERAGE OUT to equal .014". I've mostly used it for bass. This is one of those bio-feedback things you must be self taught IMHO. The butts are just not stiff enough, although, in some, the tips are quite satisfactory. Worked well enough for me to pass the test. I will add my 2 cents. Good question and I will tell you as soon as I finish my 5wt SLT. Interests: Building bamboo fly rods (occasionally), fly fishing for trout. (Harry Boyd). The difference is for a step-down ferrule. A taper is a fishing rod term that defines the rod length, optimal line weight, and rod flex action. The last page shows our interpolated numbers, on 5 inch stations, with varnish already subtracted, using both the Howell method (measure stations from the butt up) or the "classic" method (measure stations from the tip down.) 0.153 A lot goes into crafting a bamboo fly rod and here you can learn more about our approach. Apparently, the 'old masters' were just building fishing rods and not too worried about picking the fly poop out of the pepper. Only trouble with the rod is that there aren't many places in Md. Rod Selection - Dickerson Tapers, < Home < Tips Area < Rod Selection < Dickerson Tapers, Can someone help me find the taper for the Dickerson 7613. I just put stepdown ferrules on my first rod, an 8014 Dickerson. This rod belonged to rodbuilder Tim Bedford. The varnish is in good condition. Summers Bamboo Fly Rods Company Vom Hofe Reels Young Winston Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. The Garrison tip would be .078, B-9 tip would be .059, and a fast .018/5" drop a tip of .035. Fast Dickerson 7613 - 7'6" 2pc All through this process you must be aware of the stress curves as well, you don't want to make changes that will cause a rod to fail. I have made about 6 for auctions and as favors and all have been very well received and enjoyed. . I hope this helps you out some, they are actually all nice rods, but as I said there is a little different in line sizes. The 7613 Golden Witch version, a 6 wt, has a somewhat softer tip than the 8013 getting stronger toward the lower tip. to use it on trout other than the Yough, Savage River reservoir and some lakes. The other issue is mandrels and they just don't come in 1/128 sizes. (Jerry Foster). If so, which would work best as an all-around rod for lakes/ponds and steelhead/salmon? Determine the effect of adding or subtracting material as to what effect it will have on rod action, we can design rods for a specific purpose. Garrison's are straight except for the last 15 inches which he "fudged" to accommodate one of the standard tip top sizes. Don't you find short rods a problem on those splendid Yorkshire chalk streams? Regarding the similarities and differences between the 7'6" and 8' Dickerson's. I measured the rod after seeing David Ray's posting of an 861711 in his taper library that is accessed from Hexrod. For example, the 8013 taper I use is .202 at the ferrule end of the tip, and .212 at the ferrule end of the butt. We now have solid parameters around which to modify, to refine rod design characteristics. One of our most recognizable rod models with a deep flamed color and crisper action. This rod has some meat in the butt section and seems to mend a fair bit of line with ease. (Lowell Davis), The 8013 is definitely NOT a longer version of the 7613. (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. The taper on David Ray's site is an 861711D. I have a chart of the dimensions at home, if you need a copy email me off list. 5 .326 .168 Just like the makers of Ping golf clubs, who ban their retailers from selling on the internet, I do not see how it is possible to make a rod for someone without the presence of that person for a considerable time on a casting court. I recently sold a rod to a customer blind on the phone. I am sure there are situations where a bit more length would be helpful, but who am I to argue with Mr. Dickerson? Removing material in the center creates a hinge aiding in roll casting ability (thank you Harry for that bit of information). I will assume that you have calculated those several effects correctly, although I see no details. 0.205 This is merely about applying engineering principles to designing a rod for a particular application. Because Ritz was not an engineer, any more than Creusevaut or Plantet were (although the latter may have been a competent mechanic) it was thought that the extension pole should be just that, a large diameter pole of slow taper. Looking at the 5" dimensions for the Dickerson 7613 (1970 taper), there is a big swell under the grip. All of which indicates to me that there is not one 'correct' straight line taper. But all you have done is show the straight line taper for between two dimensions. On a theoretical straight line or linear taper the rod would load progressively down to the handle. (Will Price), I have noticed several folks mention the Dickerson 8014. Common sense tells me to leave the middle of the taper . Jim Payne. Daryll Whitehead would be another good choice. Easy casting and very versatile. As Stephen points out if you can cast the rods then graph them out you really start to understand how it all comes together. Strong tip; butt has flex area from 45" to 80" then a butt swell at 80". Used but very good serviceable condition. To vary the straight line you can adjust the tip dimension. 8ft #5wt. (Steve Weiss), That opens up another question. (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that. Ten measurements on the butt and ten stations on the tip. Sold Out $4,050.00 Description Particulars For your consideration is a Lyle Dickerson model 8013 bamboo fly rod made in 1948. (Ted Godfrey), I can say the one I don't like is the one in Ray Goulds fine book, 'Cane Rods, Tips and Tapers', page 85. Should be a very nice rod, good Taper. I think I can reply for Dennis, as I was one of the guys who measured those rods. (Mark Wendt), At least according to Jack Howell's measured tapers in "The Lovely Reed". like .03%/inch. 35 .188 .332 Why do you think a7'6" rod is short for a #5 ? Is there a classic taper that roll casts better any others? (Mark Wendt), I am wanting to build a Dickerson 7012 but cant find a taper that accounts for the step downs. Mr. Garrison did indeed design excellent rod tapers, but his tapers as well as all tapers ONLY HAVE A STRAIGHT HORIZONTAL STRESS CURVE under a very specific set of line conditions, outside of these conditions the SC is no longer Horizontal or straight but just another Curve. All of the tapers that I am finding appear to be using a Super Z. I am not wanting to start the Super Z vs. he then concludes with a diabolical smile. If you add bamboo the the tip of the rod, you have changed its mass (MOI/MOE) relative to what it was. It's really funny that a True Arc turns out to be a parabolic taper (how drunk were those guys?). As Will predicts, this is a very pleasant and easy rod to cast. When fishing bamboo for trout I believe the "best" length is an 8 foot rod. You can draw a straight line between the tip and the butt of any taper. As we all know, rods can often cast line weights one up and down from their designated ones. 0 0.068 40 .200 under grip I have not tried it with an 8 weight but I will as soon as I get back from Texas, ya'll. Dickerson Rods For Sale I could probably improve just by buying a new cheap file.. Made several of them. (Peter Jones) For that matter, how big does the swell actually have to be to stop the action of the rod? They look very representative to what I have seen. "God made dogs to steal our hearts and they do.". The 6611 has a swelled butt unlike many versions I've seen and is an especially sweet rod. The guy turns out to be a top casting instructor. You could have chosen Tom Fulk's true arc taper as the norm and try to describe the deviations from that. You can do all the compensation you like for varnish thickness, ring weight and ferrules but you will still not produce anything like as good as a properly calculated compound taper rod. So the data exists both ways in the spreadsheet. 0.128 (Paul Blakley). Ephemera, empherma and Ephemerella.. Photos, paintings, written stories and talents. Because of subjective issues like feel and personal prejudices, not to mention fashion, we "adjust" this a bit in fishing rods. (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. An awful lot of fudging, especially as he could have made up tip rings quite easily. It will be one of the rods in what I am calling my Basic Reference Taper set. Lyle Dickerson oft written about little powerhouse of a rod. Whether you're picking out your very first fly-fishing rod or coming in for a new modern fly reel after years out on the water, Sportsman's Warehouse can supply you with the very best fly-fishing equipment. I'm satisfied with my bamboo fly rod, even though the female metal Ferrule opening was a little big and the male ferrule on the second section would slip out after a few cast. Dickerson Rods Notes On Rods and Models Rod Features Rod Bags & Tubes Rod Markings and Script Buyer/Collector Beware Dickerson Articles About The Model Profiles Dickerson 761510 Dickerson 8014 Guide The Tom Clark Collection Anecdotes & Unseen Photos Dickerson Guide Series The Earliest Dickerson What Are The Chances? Forgot to mention before, Rich Jezioro is taking a set of 11-12/64 ferrules to Grayling for the silent auction for me, so if anybody's interested you can see them there if you're attending. According to Hoagy Carmichael Jr. who filmed a documentary for Boston Public TV, the Payne Rod Co. made approximately 12,000 rods during it's existence. 20 0.126 In the end I don't want to necessarily build a Dickerson 7613. 0.288 0.334 Special Note on this rod/ All the snake guides on the tip are 2/0 and the mid are 1/0 with a 8 stripper on butt section. So this spring I made the Dickerson 8014 Guide taper and prefer it for Lake Bass and larger bluegill. It might depend, but only a bit, on what you call "very nice" and I see that your figure for station rise was almost exactly the figure I suggested. I just read this to myself and it's obviously as clear as mud! .350@40 Just have finish paying for the last kids college. CANE RODS Tips & Tapers by Ray Gould has another version that averages out the step down. 40 0.184 And, after you "get used to it" you will fall in love with this rod taper. 15 0.115 163502 (Robin Haywood). The only question that puzzles me is why on earth he thought this might be important for fishing the Risle, which is hardly the Tay. (David Zincavage), I wouldn't turn down a couple of each for crackers. As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. 0.232 The 3 flats got averaged and put into a column in the center of the page. All rights reserved. From 80 to 85, there is an increase of ~.070. If you want to make one as a sort of standard then try a rate of taper of 13.5 thousandths per station, it gives a Gould rating of 270 which is a useful point about which to have a conversation with yourself about what you think is medium fast and what you think is fast. His total production was fewer than 1,000 rods. 65 0.2565 Still looking for a guide to hire for a striper trip to the Bay. I repaired the rod with by putting on a custom ferrule. by avyoung 06/17/16 00:43, Post 5 wt 0.0720 How would this feel? 0.256 So far everyone that has put the numbers up on Russ Goodings 7613 LT has listed 19 measurements. 30 .174 .322 70 0.271 (Steve Weiss), That's the rub isn't it? A Lyle Dickerson model 8014 bamboo fly rod, 8', 2-piece, 3-tip, and built for a #6 line. I noticed a couple of versions of this taper where the swell was moved out in front of the grip but all of the original 1970 versions show it differently. The part of the ferrule that fits on the bamboo on the female side (butt side) had an inside diameter (ID) of .221", or 14/64. (Robin Haywood). In case you didn't get the taper before, here it is: 0.066 It is quite different that the Garrison math method. 0.220 It's been my experience that a straight taper can be a very nice rod when designed correctly; for example a 4wt with a tip of 0.068 and a station rise of 0.013. Ya'll, I have built this & I use a 6 weight forward on it. Suggest that you subtract .006 for varnish. (Henry Mitchell), In Dickerson-speak, it would be a size 13 on the butt, and a 12 on the tip. Step Down debate again. Your projected experiment may be described as simplistic and wasteful of time by some, but I think that you will learn a very great deal about what you personally like about taper rates. The line was a Scientific Angler's WF7 in their XXD (distance) format. There seems to be a misunderstanding about the results this yields. First, no one casts the same. Dickerson R.W. Can do a little better some days, but not always. Solid construction of suitable solidity involved unattractive weight penalties. 55 0.2275 There are several different specs for this taper out there, three of which I use. Tel: 802-362-3300, Summer To this Robin brings up the complications created by the weight and placement of ferrules etc. June - October Spring Creek Four, Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. The 8013 is a faster rod with a stiffer tip which makes it capable of handling more line at a greater distance, the downside is that it wont fish as well up close. This gives a quick, accurate impression as to what type of taper the rod is made from (straight, parabolic, compound, etc.) The last 7613 is a version by Todd Talsma, it is the strongest one a 6/7 wt similar to the 1952 model. Assuming this to be thus you have made adjustments so small that they are mostly below normal error, and if we allow a factor for variation in natural materials then the exercise becomes entirely futile except as an exercise in applied physics! I like 8013's. (Robin Haywood). (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), I'm grateful to you for that point because a recent post referred to straight taper Garrisons and I wonder if he meant straight stress "curves". I have made quite a few Dickerson tapers. I deducted .005 for the varnish. The point here being, if we can define areas along the straight line or linier taper. 0.196 As you know line weight do vary so maybe your 8 wt is my 7 wt, or something like that? Regarding Chris Bogart's Dickerson. I have just finished reading your post regarding Straight Line Tapers and Straight horizontal Stress Curves and I must say that you as well as robin really do need a refresher course in Stress Curves. Since it was a know Dickerson Taper and not a myth I set out to recreate how I think Lyle would of done it and it came out sweet. I think the perfectionist is a fine taper and rod. Different tools for doing different things. 20 .140 .298 If you're willing to accept our assumptions about varnish thickness and how to interpolate between measurements, then the table on the last page is the one to use. For example a 13 was really a 13.5? It is my belief that there are only seven truly different tapers available as a base to design rods from. I don't disagree with any one here in fact I think you are all correct. Just for once I'm going to recommend a step down ferrule! Overhanging trees? Regardless of what any book says about what size ferrule belongs on this or that rod, i look at the flat to flat measurements at the ferrule ends and make my own decision about what ferrule to use. (Gordon Koppin), If I might ask: Which Perfectionist taper do you favor? 30 .174 .318 by avyoung 06/17/16 04:49, Post Harry Boyd ----------- Harry Boyd http://www.canerods.com maker@canerods.com Aransas.clarks Guide Posts: 301 Good luck. Purchased item: Leonard 38 - Bamboo Vintage Fly Rod Reproduction Bob Thompson Jun 4, 2021 Helpful? the all-around trout rod out here in the Western US. The butt dimension at the ferrule is too large to fit in a 13/64. (Bob Norwood), That is kind of what I was thinking but if the rod is 7'6", that is 90". Why? The 8013 is an 8' 0", 2/2, 5wt., 4.35 oz. a 3 1/2 wt - were that possible. (Harry Boyd), In Dickerson-speak, does a 7613 have a 14 on the butt to 13 on the tip or a 13 on the butt to 12 on the tip stepdown? .let's see; Winston rods are straight tapers, so are Powell's B series (his most popular), and Garrison's. 75 0.279 126179 Part of the midwestcadre of noted builders, he built rods from the 1930's onward and was especially known for his fast two-piece rods. Ralph Tuttle did the actual spreadsheet work. If you are looking for a Dickerson rod or have one that you would like to sell please contact us. All he needed to do was speed up the butts, preferably with a concave taper form, and he would really have been cooking with gas! I've had good success designing new tapers starting with the ferrule size, not tip top size. (David Zincavage), You can inform your authority that he is wayyyyyyyyyy off base!! In the hands of a good caster, this taper will make a fly line do things that amaze. Quite a disparity. (Timothy Troester). This taper, starting with a .068 tip dimension, makes a great middle distance 8' WF6 or 7-1/2' 5wt. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection Gift of . by oldfishbrain 06/19/16 10:39, Post (Jerry Foster), For some applications, like fishing dries from a drifting boat, it could be even a bit short. Thursday - Saturday, 10am to 4pm. (Larry Swearingen). (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that.) You can design a flyrod, racing bicycle, airplane or motorcar to do one thing superbly with ease. 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Yes, there are specific applications for a 7'6" 5wt here in Michigan. That's the "raw cane" numbers. 0.168 Again, there is slight flattening around the ferrule, and I suspect the measurement at 35" is due to machine operator error/technique rather than designed in. Inquiring solvent-afflicted minds want to know. by mosquito 05/08/09 09:33, Post It is obviously also extremely useful to compare one rod with others at the same time. by avyoung 06/12/16 18:13, Post 9 wt 0.0890. What you have done is show the slope to the tip to butt. I own one of his 7612s and it's a wonderful rod. This means that the finished rod will cast like a ONE PIECE SLT rod. (David Atchison), Wondered if anyone had the taper for the Dickerson 8012 laying around. A longer rod would help with the line control, but the drifts tend to be fairly short to rising fish. These get assimilated quite directly into stress curve approach. 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