Like maybe God wants a *clear* separation of His ways from the enemys ways? Sndergaard and his family fled Denmark in 2019, fearing persecution and arrest following a harassment campaign by the government and media. If I were putting my life out in the public eye with videos on the Internet, then I would expect true believers to test what I was doing. Does that mean they REPENTED AND GOT BORN AGAIN? Attributing some of the esoteric and bizzare paychotic behavior manifestations of the historic revivals ( which was highly suspect in the eyes of most revival leaders of previous generations) AS NORMAL. Yes! acting through Torben, to see if it is from God. Why shouldnt the Truth be out there as well? 0 20 20 comments Best Boy! Now a woman, having a flow of blood for twelve years, who had spent all her livelihood on physicians and could not be healed by any, came from behind and touched the border of His garment. After watching the second video, I can see the value of praying with people after talking to them about Jesus. CBN News has learned that Danish evangelist Torben Sndergaard, who was taken into custody June 30th in Florida while awaiting a decision on a pending asylum application with the U.S. government, was arrested by an FBI agent with the Joint Terrorism Task Force and told the arrest was for gun smuggling, even though Sndergaard was never charged for that. But WHO does the SANCTIFYING? And when man USES these things, that is witchcraft. New Testament Christianity right before your eyes. Stephen St. Louis..your post was SO on target. And they said, To Johns baptism. Nothing wrong with asking questions. How can anyone with a sound mind say that In Jesus and the apostles day their miracles were accompanied by this nascent WIERDSVILLE? It should not be an amazing thing to see the hand of the Lord working through one of His servants, but because the church has waxed cold we feel these are amazing works. My friend, who had been talking to her, had been kneeling as he talked to her in his great earnestness. And even the weaker among us serve a purpose in testing the character of the stronger..oh my, yes, how we treat our weaker members tells a tale, thats for sure. Our household is transformed, and being renewed daily by the Holy Spirit of Grace, by witch we are saved through faith in Jesus Christ our Lord. watchful, your message about running from the spot light is a good one. Its not encouraged by most North American Churches in fact they often teach the opposite so how else is he supposed to show people that, yes, it can and does work like this. We cannot just be focused on what is wrong. When I have worked in our garden the whole day, my body picks up dirt, mud and muck and do not need to go to Jesus to ask Him to cleanse me. He fixed my brokenness. Jesus Himself came back to give us this message in Rev 7:14 These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washedtheirrobes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.. HEALED VIA YOUTUBE! Pass This Video On! Try it you will like it!!! The FIRE that is called down from heaven in the last days by the Antichrist and his ministers of righteousness (2 Corinthians 11:15) will lead to the wild fire spread of speaking in tongues. Sndergaard's legal team told CBN News that while ICE has discretion to detain someone who has an asylum application pending, it is extremely irregular for ICE to detain someone with a pending asylum application without criminal charges being involved. This supernatural revival among the normal ordinary folk that I prophesied about is waiting for us to cease from our religious striving, place all our hope and confidence in Jesus alone plus nothing of ourselves, surrender and yield to the Holy Spirit who will come like a pent up flood when we do. People who claim to be believe in Jesus who dont even recognize Him when He is in one if His servants doing exactly what He always does- loving ordinary people, healing the sick, casting out demons and preaching good news??? 2.Where did Jesus say that? So the real test is that you will react to something the way Jesus wants you to react, and you are unable to do that if you dont always listen and obey. He even said that it doesnt really work in the church and that it is easier to believe for someone to be healed that you are never going to see again. he works through us and not we ourselves. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Minister Starker. This prophesy shall be fulfilled in Gods people ! The man ran upon the platform and around the room. The elitist claims to have personal relationships with God and regularly receive divine visions. Secondly I remember well how Derek Prince when he held healing and deliverance meetings would always begin by praying for one or two folk with legs of uneven length. Recently I was working at a ladies house and noticed she was enormously overweight and who had breathing assist aperatuses all over her house . So what does it look like when you have a whole congregation full of demons, principalities, powers, rulers of wickedness, familiar spirits, witchcraft practicioners.and then the Glory of God comes to set people free all at once? Although not perfect, Andrew is not afraid to call out those who are preaching a false gospel, and that is something I respect him for and have supported him for. Absolutely not! Any unforgiveness or unhealed wounds of the heart that the scriptures command that we be SANCTIFIED from; HEALED from; PURIFIED from..GIVE THE DEVIL LEGAL ACCESS TO TORMENT AND ATTACK US. `in His right hand He held 7 stars.`, This shows the executive activity of the enthroned Son of Man. Attacks against his ministry in Denmark began in 2016,when the Jesus Center was investigated by six different Danish government agencies for everything from food safety to unpaid taxes. Im pretty sure there isnt any FEAR in the DIVINE Holy Spirit. To show this . One more thing. I also believe, and this falls in line with the Wilkerson article, that a specific outpouring is coming where the miracles of God are going to be so manifest and evident and powerful that no one will ever be able to deny them. Could you ever imagine Jesus holding up a persons legs, showing the legs to be different sizes? If God is doing it, then it is sweet if man is doing it then there is bitterness. Doing the REAL thing is NOT a prim and proper church serviceit is messy..take a look at the demonic deliverances in the NT. Fire tunnels are to bring hilarious laughter and uncontrollable shacking. And guess what happened? step 4. He said no weapon FORMED against us will prosper and yet I can only think of one weapon that has been formed from the beginning, and that is the carnal mind, leaving me to understand that no carnal mind formed against us will prosper. After all, Paul was not sinless like Jesus. This move of God will be marked by love, unselfconscious holiness, fullness of joy and deep loyalty to Jesus and to each other . All of us instantly felt heat like a fire go through us all. The Transfiguration was either TELEPORTING or GHOSTS APPEARING..which the bible condemns calling up spirits of the dead. And Peter said to them, Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2:38). 2 Thess. He told me that all discs were as good as new, with absolutely no sign of any damage. God 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. As an aside, God doesnt need to use any of us to heal anyone. are called to go out and minister in the same, whether it is videoed or not! I believe God is Sovereign and all things happen for a reason, as i came to this site after looking up Leon du Preez( Thanks again), but just when i wanted to share that post, i found this one. I mean lets get serious now, how many of you reading this article thought to yourself, why do they get this gift and I dont? Yes. When you are born again you are automaticallySPIRITUALLYbaptised by Jesus Christ onto the One and Only baptism there is, where after the Holy Spirit comes to live in you. This goes for others also, not just Trenton, who have commented on Bill Johnson in this thread above, When you make comments about people who are actually your brothers and sisters in the Lord and say publically that they are not and condemn and run them down you are actually condemning and running down Jesus because He stands with them He is one spirit with them just as He is one spirit with you if you belong to Him, When you do this you fight against yourself, So if you cant say, The Holy Spirit told me regarding Bill Johnson in a negative way then I suggest that you dont say anything negative about him at all but take your concerns to the Lord in prayer and support him in prayer, I dont sense from any of the comments made by anyone above about Bill Johnson that any of you (commenters) have done this, But this is what scripture tells you to do, If you think you are spiritual then you are meant to be able to restore someone who you think is caught in a fault with a spirit of meekness thats the proof of your spirituality I dont see that in the comments made about Bill Johnson above, We need to be careful we are those who believe in the Lord one family. Hypnotist Torben Sondergaard & his Cult of Demonic Hypnosis - Destroyed by God Torben says he is doing what God told him to do, you prove to us that he is not ! Just because there are counterfeits, is no reason to deny when God does something. And Christ is still healing, comforting, bearing our sorrows & griefs, through Torben, Barry, you & me & thousands upon thousands throughout the world. Ruining the faith of the faithful is most important to him. I asked her if me and my apprentice could pray for her. Shame on you skeptics! HOW NOT TO GAIN ENTRANCE THROUGH HEAVENS GATES? Sometimes it is our fear for anothers situation which prompts intercession, the sharing of warnings, admonishments or what-have-you. Update from Friends of Torben. They are all in a web of deception. They were floating ON water IN the ark which is a metaphor of Jesus Christ. When a person HONORS and SURRENDERS to the Holy Spirit AS GOD, then the Holy Spirit MANIFESTS HIMSELFHIS GOODNESS, LOVE, PEACE, JOY etc. In all the videos, I dont see evidence in those being healed of being brought to repentance and an acknowledgement of Jesus as Lord. Why cant people see this? Sndergaard has been held in a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) jail, the Baker County Facility, in MacClenny, Florida, since the arrest. Torben Sndergaard is part of the Oneness Pentecostal sect. Are you serious? So I am going to be featuring a lot more of Torbens stuff on here. The flip side is we did these things in your name and Jesus replied depart from me you workers of lawlessness. What was the root practice in baptism? it was the Jewish Mikvah, which was extremely important, even more important than the synagogue or the Torah scroll, which they could sell to build the Mikvah. Its very alarming that so many Christians are following this man. Torben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. 2.getting water baptized(immersed) on my faith in the name of Jesus Mental facilities will be empty because everyone will be given a sound mind, just like the man with the legion of demons in him. Videos. He avoided being arrested in 2019. . Just because you believe it doesnt make it true. Thats not me even mentioning all the weird things that happened while I was at his school for 2 months before I left. Or when did he say Johns Baptism will pass away? He believes that the Holy Spirit, acting through him, can heal people. What I find very disappointing is that when some of us want to engage in an honest discussion about this story, we are met with name calling and ridicule. Only those who were damned to eternal perdition were baptized (dunked UNDER/IN) the water. I agree with Rev. 5 Remember then from what heights you have fallen. Yet these men have said that God did these things and gave glory to Him. He has started a prison ministry and oversees a team of believers that are hosting their own separate Bible studies. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023. [8] Lack of healing is caused by a lack of faith which is Word of Faith doctrine to the core. When my dad died, I lost it and wept, my emotions were running wild and I was broken. That is how Jesus does what He wants to do thru us. Jesus was circumcised when he was 8 days old, and He was baptised by John the Baptist when He was 30. I conclude by re-stating that it is 100% biblical to test the spirits and those who want to engage in name calling are not willing to honestly test what they are seeing. common, ordinary, plain, usual, Related Words He and his work are counterfeit. I think God likes what Im doing more than what you are NOT doing.. `And beginning with Moses & with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the scriptures.` Johnathan Isreal- I am not ashamed to take the Lords name Christian you can say it was a handle the worldly people mockingly gave to the early followers of Jesus Christ if you want ( I doubt you are right about that enormous leap of assumption as the text does not say what you so dogmatically assume. Be very careful. There is a Danish Pastor called Torben Sndergaard doing the rounds and Ive been asked 3 times now what I think of him. Though we may not be able to pull up scriptures on the fly, well know something is wrong when we see it. Why have we not seen this? So Are people insinuating that the people prayed for were actors? (Matthew 3:11-12) John the Baptist says: I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance:but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. Jesus did a lot of disappearing acts.TELEPORTATION. One one scripture the practice is built by many churches and the fact of doing something based one scripture is itself against the Word that requires 2 or 3 witnesses. One day, after they had put GOD IN A BOX, they did not INQUIRE OF THE LORD and just took the Ark of the Lord and put it in front of them and went into battle. Jesus healed in the synagogue too. If we just go by what we think the Holy Spirit is saying we can over ride Him in our carnal thinking, or if we just rely on our thoughts of the Word we also get into trouble. God. After all thats what the miracles are meant to confirm. 2023 The Christian Broadcasting Network, Inc., A nonprofit 501 (c)(3) Charitable Organization. Those clips only showed a small part of what was taking place (good or bad) and there is no way of telling just by that (unless God revealed it) whether it was of God or not. 23:25). Its obvious from these verses that those performing these counterfeit miracles do so under the honest belief that they are doing them in the name of Jesus, but God is clear that they are not. The Holy Spirit will prepare that soil ACCORDING to what works with that particular person. Previous Comments: Please read all previous comment pages if there are any. There is no time like the present. Thats why the only way is to flee temptation, flee the limelight. c) (Piel) to make afraid, terrify Seeking these bizzare and esoteric psychotic manifestations AS SPIRITUAL AND SIGNS OF THE HOLY SPIRITS PRESENCE AND APPROVAL. amount of `gobly gook.`. People can either answer yes I do what The Lord tells me to do , or then whatever they say , whatever it may sound like , they are really saying no I do not do everything The Lord tells me to do. I saw a lady several weeks later who looked like this lady but because this lady was a normal size I thought it might be her sister . Poor Christians get demons deceiving them and leading them astray, far away from the real God of the bible. Mental facilities will be empty because everyone will be given a sound mind, just like the man with the legion of demons in him. https://friendsoftorben.comINTERVIEW WITH DR. BROWNhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bhiwc_nm_UOUR MOVIEShttps://thelastreforma. You will receive an email and you will need to confirm your subscription. They left for the U.S. with only what they could carry in 8 suitcases. , A google search will bring up links on this subject.. here is one link: http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/orrel46.pdf, The Lord Jesus Christ He is true God and true man.. Jesus also gave the great commission, in Mat 28:18-20 saying All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. it is talking about each of us, or as a group, being so surrendered to HIS Presence that His Nature is tangibly MANIFESTED to the people around us. Dont get into a RUT and EXPECT the Holy Spirit to work in the same way He did the last time you noticed Him working. Seymour didnt preach that night. God will move you along as fast as your faith will allow. Let me give you an example. And I will add that God will SEND His apostles, and prophets, etc.. to the people, just as He did with John the Baptist and every other man and woman of God that He has used over the centuries. It also costs $35 if you want to even be trained in it. Do you think because you read the bible that if you saw a man calling Himself Jesus, this very day, YOU WOULD BELIEVE IT WAS HIM? Lightening Storm, Yeah, I think the bottom line is that people really need to read their bible more, and pray as you do it. Street preacher accused of smuggling arms from Mexico. Each time they went into battle, THEY INQUIRED OF THE LORD and the Lord told them to put the Ark of the Lord in front of them..and VOILA..they won the battle. The worship leader sang (chanted actually) the words come, come, come over and over again. You dont know me, nor do I know you. However, I watched the second video first. Based on just the video alone, we cannot verify whether these healings are genuine or not. (Mark 9:14, 16-18 NASB). the pros and cons on this website -just get out there and listen to what the HS tells you whilst out and do it. Final thought to underline what I wrote earlier. Because that which is of God is not weird but is HOLY. For forgiveness of sin? I have never see one video (much less the one with Torben) providing evidence of objective healings. June 30th, 2022 by Crime Informer. It could be the GLORY Face like Moses manifested. post any of these things on my website without rafts of cynical Just think, the ark of the covenant was not permitted to be handled with hands of flesh, it had to be carried with poles, and not even just any poles, because it was HOLY. Dear Barry .here is a quote from your post. By Michael Ashcraft -. Paul had an awful time with those type of people as we can see in Gal and Rom and also the author of Hebrews. A new Jesus one who never calls for self denial, who is more hyper spiritual than he is authentically human. 2000 years agp the worldly people called Yeshuas followers Christians. I must say your eisegesis is astonishing. My answer is simple Jesus never copied ANYONE. We have all learned those past lessons of gullibility and stupidity in embracing that charismatic sorcery. 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